My great aunt Laura Morgan, as well as my great great aunt Anne Franklin Morgan (daughter of Benjamin Rush E. Morgan 1822) said they moved from NJ because our Morgan ancestor was disowned by the meeting in NJ, so we cleared out rather live as ostracised citizens. But who knows. The meetings actually disowned individuals, not whole families. They said the Benjamin we descend from was disowned but they were thinking it was Benjamin R. E. Morgan b 1822 Swedesboro NJ and that he went to Moorestown Meeting. Not possible. He was living in Philadelphia by the time he was old enough to get disowned. So it seems to be the usual problem of getting generations mixed up. In other words it is a Benjamin R. Morgan of another generation.
I have suspected for a long time they were meaning Benjamin R. Morgan who was read out of meeting 1795 for warlike activities. Benjamin Rawle Morgan was read out of meeting in 1795- and after doing this research, but looking at his census data he seems childless. So I realize it is HIS father from whom I COULD be descended-Benjamin R. Morgan Sr. and his unknown second wife for which he was disowned, as she was not a Quaker. Or it could be from a son of Benjamin Sr who was born right after his second marriage. Nothing is known about his children in the second marriage, so I have no solved my own Morgan mystery. But it can be solved if someone will look up the deed at Gloucester Cout House. This is the notation I have from the Doughten Papers stored at the Court House:
“Deed Nathan Thomas, et ux., dtd 5 Aug 1819 Bk. EE p. 481 to Elisha Chew 5 Aug 1819. Land adjoining ADAM MORGAN's land; and which land Nathan Thomas purchased of JOHN MORGAN & SARAH, his wife by deed 26 March 1817 Bk. Z, p. 416- Doughten papers Glou. Co. Clerk's office.”
DEEDS AND LAND RECORDS
Many historical records are recorded in the County Clerk’s Office dating back to 1686, the year that Gloucester County was incorporated. In fact, the deed of the first property purchased by the United States Government dated July 5, 1776 is one of the documents on record here along with other countless recordings that affect real estate title. These records include deeds, mortgages, judgments, and other land attachments.
NOTE: LAND RECORDS AND DEEDS ARE LOCATED IN THE "OLD" COURT HOUSE IN WOODBURY
James N. Hogan, Gloucester County Clerk
ADDRESS
1 North Broad Street
Woodbury , NJ 08096
Telephone: 856-853-3241
TTY/TTD Number 856-853-3254
Fax Number - 856-853-3327
RESEARCH HOURS FOR DEEDS/LAND RECORDS ARE:
8:30 AM to 4 PM Monday through Friday
MAILING ADDRESS
P.O. Box 129
Woodbury , N.J. 08096
CONTACT TELEPHONE NUMBERS:
RECORDS ROOM: 856.853.3346
COUNTY CLERK : 856.853.3237
Book: Notes of Old Gloucester County , Vol. 2, p. 7:
“The Sign of the Golden Sheaf tavern was situated in the angle formed by the junction of the Salem and Sculltown ( Auburn ) roads at Swedesboro. Adam Morgan operated it in 1821. In his application for a license he stated the house had been built as a tavern and always used as such. The compiler has had many good meals at the "Sign of the Golden Sheaf," and has often inquired about its registry books but like nearly everything else, excepting the church and graveyard of Trinity Church, there is but little historical information obtainable since the death of our honored and respected Quaker friend, Capt. Chas. D. Lippincott.”For information about the Griffith Morgan House write kayrudd@aol.com
# Elizabeth Ibbs
# Birth: b: 25 Apr 1650 in NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND
Death: 1720 in Waterford Twp, Gloucester,
Father: Alexander Ibbs b: 27 OCT 1622 in ENGLAND (NORTHAMPTON COUNTY)
Mother: Bridget_______ b: in ENGLAND
Marriage 1 Samuel 1st. Coles b: 1637 in MIDDLESEX ENGLAND
* Married: 25 MAY 1675 in MIDDLESEX ENGLAND
Children
1. Mary Coles b: ABT 1678 in WATERFORD TWP. NEW JERSEY (GLOUCESTER COUNTY)
2. Rachel Coles b: ABT 1680 in WATERFORD TWP. NEW JERSEY (GLOUCESTER COUNTY)
3. Samuel 2nd. Coles b: 8 MAR 1681 in WATERFORD TWP. NEW JERSEY (GLOUCESTER COUNTY)
Marriage 2 Griffith Morgan
* Married: 10 Dec 1693 in NEW JERSEY
Children
1. Alexander Morgan b: SEPT. 1694 in EVESHAM TWNSHP, BURLINGTON COUNTY, NEW JERSEY Death: 1752 in BURLINGTON CO married Hannah Cooper 14 OCT 1717 in Haddonfield MM, Camden (formerly Gloucester) Co., NJ
2. Morgan, Joseph married 4 women
Children of Alexander leading to various family trees on Ancestry
1.
Mary MORGAN b: 6 OCT 1718 in Evesham Twp., Burlington, NJ wife of Edmund Hollinshead2. .
Joseph Morgan 17203. Elizabeth MORGAN 1722 m. William Miller, later married Smith
4.
Benjamin MORGAN b: 1730 in Chester, Pennsylvania m. Jane Roberts, 2nd unknown5. Lydia MORGAN b 1731
6. Hannah MORGAN b ca 1733 married ?Beakes or ?Thomson
7.
Sarah Morgan b ca 1735 m. Josiah Burrough on 14 Mar 1757 in Haddenfield MM, Burlington Co., NJ8. Rachel b ca 1737
Name: Benjamin R Morgan
Description: Heir
Date: 30 Nov 1811
Prove Date: 16 Jun 1813
Title: Esquire
BookPage: 5:6
Remarks: Johnson, Lydia. Phila. Spinster. Nov 30, 1811. June 16, 1813. 5.6. To friend Benjamin R. Morgan, Esq. To Elizabeth Smith -aunt to said Benjn. R. Morgan. To Lydia Beakes, daughter of Nathan Beakes living near Trenton, a silver can formerly belonged to Hannah Beakes, aunt of said Lydia. To friend Lydia Hollinshead, now living in Burlington, daughter of late Edmund Hollinshead, the elder, dec'd. To Atlantic Allen, a young woman that formerly lived with her and to her daughter Lydia Allen. In trust to the Treasurer of Monthly Meeting of Friends of Phila., Northern District. To cousin Anna Thomson, daughter of late Peter Thomson, the elder and cousin Hannah his wife, said Anna to pay annuity to her mother, at her death to her brother Peter, he to continue payment to his mother, said Hannah Thomson. To Sarah Biddle Thomson daughter of said cousin Peter Thomson and his late wife Rebecca. To Hannah Thomson, Jr., also daughter of said Peter and Rebecca. Releases cousin John Thomas from debt. To Dr. John D. Thomas, son of said John Thomas. Cousin Thomas P. Cope. To cousin Mary Cope, wife of said Thomas P. Execs: Cousins Thomas P. Coope and Peter Thomson.
Benjamin Morgan 1 (Sr.) born 1730 in Chester, PA (even though his brothers and sisters were all born in Waterford Township Gloucester Co NJ) and was the son of Alexander Morgan born ca 1702 in NJ (Philadelphia MM) and his wife was Hannah Cooper Married: 14 OCT 1717 in Haddonfield MM, Gloucester County, N. Alexander's father was Griffith Morgan. The Source for this is p. 212, First Immigrant Settlers of West Gloucester County, New Jersey, by John Colement of Haddonfield, NJ.
Benjamin Sr family was living in Gloucester Co NJ, but those old residents presumably sought brides in the Welsh tract, as well as visited, and had business associations for a long time in Philadelphia as well as being able to meet at YEARLY MEETING. I think some commuted from Gloucester to Philadelphia every day. In winter they took a sleigh across the Delaware . Mickle of Woodbury Meeting speaks of doing that in his diaries from the earlier 1800s. Benjamin R. had property in Gloucester NJ
Page: 345
Name: Alexander Morgan
Date: 04 Nov 1751
Location: Waterford, Gloucester Co.
yeoman; will of. Wife, Hannah. Sons--Joseph, to have in addition to the place whereon he lives, by previous deed of gift, land in Township of Newton, purchased of my brother-in-law, Joseph Cooper; Benjamin, the home tract, also land purchased of Samuel Burge, 23 acres in Burlington County, joining Samuel Davis and Thomas Lippincott, 34 acres of swamp purchased of Samuel Burroughs on Delaware River and the northeast side of Pensawking Creek. Daughters--Mary (wife of Edmund Hollinshead), Elizabeth (wife of William Miller), Lydia, to have her legacy in 12 months, Hannah, Sarah and Rachel to have theirs at 21. Grandchildren (minors; names not given). Executors--wife, Hannah, and son Joseph. Witnesses--George Weed, Thomas Lippincott, Junior, Saml. Spicer. Affirmed 11 Dec., 1751.
Lib. 7, p. 165.
1751, Nov. 28, 29. Inventory (£1912.1.11 1/2) includes clock (£20), map of Europe, Delft ware, "A Larum Clock & stand," 2 mulatto slaves, a woman and boy (£53), wheat, rye, hay, boat with awning, sail oars. Appraisers--Tho. Spicer, Joshua Raper.
Children of Jane Roberts and Benjamin Morgan Sr
Hannah MORGAN b: JUL 1762 in Philadelphia MM , Pa Died ae 13 mo- Benjamin Morgan b March 1763 died 18 months October 1764
- William MORGAN , Sr. b: 1764 RESIDENCE: Granted certificate from Fairfax VA to Gunpowder VA in 1791 to marry 1 Sarah PRICE b: 17 FEB 1769; died 15 SEP 1845 in Alexandria, District of Columbia, Virginia 1 William, long removed, granted certificate from Fairfax to Indian Spring MM in 1797; Received at Fairfax from Gunpowder in 1792, which certificate by her request endorsed to Indian Spring MM, MD. where she now resides;William and Sarah were members of Washington PM, which belonged to Indian Spring MM, MARYLAND Elder at Washington PM;When that meeting was transferred to Alexandria MM in 1817, they were automatically transferred;Requested membership in 1790 at Fairfax; Elder at Washington PM; Disowned in 1825, but reinstated in 1834 at Alexandria MM. He failed in business, owing far more than his assets. Treated some creditors unjustly to favor others, for which he was disowned;Children
1. Miranda MORGAN Miranda married to a Mr Guy out of unity 1821 in Alexandria MM, District of Columbia, Virginia 1 Acknowledgement accepted; died 1854 Washington DC
2. William MORGAN , Jr.
3. Thomas MORGAN Granted certificate from Alexandria MM to Baltimore MM in 1822; died 1832 in New Orleans, Louisiana 1
4. Jane MORGAN b: ABT 1808 died age 29. 16 JUN 1837 in Alexandria, District of Columbia, Virginia 1 - Benjamin Rawle Morgan born Feb 1765 Benjamin Morgan and Jane Roberts' son Benjamin R. was likewise disowned in the Philadelphia Meeting Minutes 1795 which were kept for West jersey and Philadelphia. He was disowned for warlike activities--maybe getting on a warship to ride up the river. Little is known of Benjamin Rawle Morgan but I found him first because he was disowned at Philadelphia Meeting 1795, an active year for him as it turns out. He was active in the management of the Philadelphia Library Company as secretaryfrom 1792. He was Lawyer Candidate for Pennsylvania state senate 26 February 1795.Benjamin Rawle Morgan served as a trustee of the University of Pennsylvania from 1797 until his death in 1840. In the Philadelphia newspaper obit it says he was born in Gloucester Co NJ and had a residence there, as well as in Philadelphia.
- unknown children by an unknown 2nd wife
- unknown children by an unknown 2nd wife
1790 Water Street East Side, Benjamin
name of head of household, number of free white males and females, number of other free persons, number of slaves
This is Benjamin R. -the junior
AT this time his neighbors were Thomas and John Drinker, well known Philadelphians.
Name: Benjamin R. Morgan
Description: Witness
Prove Date: 5 Feb 1794
BookPage: WBX:24
Remarks: Haines, Reuben. Phila. Brothers: Casper, Josiah. Sister: Kitty. Cousin: Dr. Wistar.Friends: Israel Whelen, Dr. Young, Kearney Wharton, George Taylor.Testified to handwriting: Isaiah Matlack, Benjamin R. Morgan, Robert Waln.
Name: Benjamin R. Morgan
Description: Witness
Date: 12 Aug 1794
Prove Date: 26 May 1795
BookPage: WBX:254
Remarks: Haines, Josiah. Late of Northumberland Co., City of Phila. Gentleman.Wife: Name not given. Children: Names not given.Exec: Brother Caspar Wistar Haines, Josiah Matlack, Israel Wheelin, John Boyd, Benjamin R. Morgan, Kearny Wharton.Guardians: Wife's Brother-in-Law John Smith, John Boyd, Cousin Anthony Morris.
1800 Philadelphia Lower Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA
Benjr R Morgan (jr) (His father lived in Gloucester most likely.)
name of head of household, number of free white males and females by ages, number of other free persons except Indians, number of slaves
In 1802 a friend of Benjamin Rawle Morgan died and is mentioned as an executor and friend:
Date: 14 Jul 1802
Prove Date: 8 Jun 1803
Title: Attorney
BookPage: 1:109
Remarks: William D.D. Smith. Northern Liberties, City of Philadelphia. For many years Provost of the College, Academy and Charitable School of City of Philadelphia, now resident on farm at Falls of Schuylkill. Brother: Thomas Smith. Son: William. ......Friends: Hon. Jasper Yeates, Rev. William White, Bishop of the Protestant Episcopal Church in Penna. and Benjamin R. Morgan, Councellor at Law in Philadelphia. Exec: Bro. Hon. Thomas Smith, friends Jasper Yeates, Revd. William White and Benjamin R. Morgan. Codicil: Feb. 3, 1803. Revokes that part of Will which appoints Exec. and names instead his sons William Moore Smith, Charles and Richard Smith and Benjamin R. Morgan.
1810 Philadelphia Lower Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA
Benjn R Morgan (Jr)
name of head of household, number of free white males and females by ages, number of other free persons except Indians, number of slaves
Name: Benjamin R Morgan
Description: Heir
Date: 30 Nov 1811
Prove Date: 16 Jun 1813
Title: Esquire
BookPage: 5:6
Remarks: Johnson, Lydia. Phila. Spinster. Nov 30, 1811. June 16, 1813. 5.6. To friend Benjamin R. Morgan, Esq. To Elizabeth Smith -aunt to said Benjn. R. Morgan. To Lydia Beakes, daughter of Nathan Beakes living near Trenton, a silver can formerly belonged to Hannah Beakes, aunt of said Lydia. To friend Lydia Hollinshead, now living in Burlington, daughter of late Edmund Hollinshead, the elder, dec'd. To Atlantic Allen, a young woman that formerly lived with her and to her daughter Lydia Allen. In trust to the Treasurer of Monthly Meeting of Friends of Phila., Northern District. To cousin Anna Thomson, daughter of late Peter Thomson, the elder and cousin Hannah his wife, said Anna to pay annuity to her mother, at her death to her brother Peter, he to continue payment to his mother, said Hannah Thomson. To Sarah Biddle Thomson daughter of said cousin Peter Thomson and his late wife Rebecca. To Hannah Thomson, Jr., also daughter of said Peter and Rebecca. Releases cousin John Thomas from debt. To Dr. John D. Thomas, son of said John Thomas. Cousin Thomas P. Cope. To cousin Mary Cope, wife of said Thomas P. Execs: Cousins Thomas P. Coope and Peter Thomson.
Name: Benjn. R Morgan
Description: Executor
Date: 6 Jun 1812
Prove Date: 5 Jan 1814
BookPage: 5:163
Remarks: Smith, Elizabeth. Phila. Widow of George Smith. June 6, 1812. Jan 5, 1814. 5.163. To grandson George Smith. To Robert Owen Wharton. To Ruth, the daughter of Samuel and Sarah Roberts of Pikeland, Chester Co. To granddaughter Elizabeth Smith. To Maria Snell, Sophia Humphrey and Sarah Burns of Phila., spinsters. To Jane Lister of same place, spinster. To sister Susanna Beatty her farm in Uwchland, Chester Co. To four grandchildren Morgan, John, Awbrey and Geo. Hoffman. To nephew Benjn. R. Morgan. Execs: Robert Wharton, Esq. of Phila., and Benjn. R. Morgan.
Name: Benjamin R Morgan
Residence: Philadelphia
Description: Executor
Date: 28 Jan 1814
Prove Date: 10 May 1815
Title: Esquire
BookPage: 6:614
Remarks: William Austin. Charleston. South Carolina. Jan. 28, 1814. May 10, 1815. 6.614. To my son, William Austin, $4.26. To Maria Elliott, rent of my ferry in Phila. that Benjamin R. Morgan holds in trust for me, if she remains unmarried. At her death, said ferry to eldest son of Samuel Austin, in state of New Jersey, County of Salem. To Louisa Smith. To friend, David Denoon. To George Elliott. Exec: Friend, Benjamin R. Morgan, Esq., of Phila.
1820 Philadelphia Lower Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA
Benjn R Morgan
name of head of household, number of free white males and females by ages, number of other free persons except Indians, number of slaves
In 1830-40 he may be living with his family. he died in 1840.
Sources:
- Title: First Immigrant Settlers of Newton Township, Old Gloucester Co, West Jersey by John Colement of Haddonfield NJ
Page: 212 - Name: Benjamin Morgan
Description: Executor
Date: 29 Aug 1764
Prove Date: 28 Sep 1764
BookPage: N:190
Remarks: George Owen. City of Phila. Hatter. 29 Aug 1764. 28 Sep 1764. Sisters: Elizabeth Rhoads, Jane West, Susanna, Rebecca Maris. Friends: John Biddle, Doctors Cadwalader Evans, John Redman and Robert Harris, Gunning Bedford, Clement Biddle, Joseph Wood in Darby, Contributors of Pennsylvania Hospital, Poor of New Presbyterian Meeting at Third and Mulberry Streets. Sons in law: James Rhoads, Jesses Maris, Joseph West, Nephews and Nieces: Children of Jane West. Execs.: James Rhoads, Jesse Maris, Benjamin Morgan, Clement Biddle. N:190. - Name: Benjamin Morgan
Residence: West NJ
Description: Executor
Date: 23 Mar 1782
Prove Date: 28 Jul 1787
Title: Merchant
BookPage: T:521
Remarks: Smith, George. City of Phila. School Master. 3 mo. 23, 1782. July 28, 1787. T.521. Wife: Elizabeth. Children: Benjamin, Mary. Exec: Elizabeth Smith, Benjamin Morgan of West New Jersey, Merchant. Guardians: Edward Jones, Jacob Jones of Merion, Pennsylvania. - Title: Sketches of the First Emigrant Settlers in Newton Township, Old Gloucester County, West New Jersey Author: John Clement, of Haddonfield, N.J. Publication: Sinnickson Chew, N, E. Corner Front and Market Streets, 1877
- Name: Benjamin Morgan
Description: Nephew
Date: 12 Sep 1783
Prove Date: 28 Jul 1787
BookPage: T:522
Remarks: Roberts, Ruth. City of Phila. Spinster, Daughter of Awbry and Ruth Roberts, decd., Late of County of Chester. 9 mo. 12, 1783. July 28, 1787. T.522. Sister: Elizabeth Smith, Widow. Nephew: Benjamin Morgan. Exec: Elizabeth Smith, Robert Proud. - Source for marriage: Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, By William Wade Hinshaw, Volume II, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore , 1969. p. 601.
1761, 9, 17. Benjamin, s Allexander, Phila., Pa., m Jane Roberts, dt of Awbrey, Phila., Pa., at Phila. Mtg.Merion in the Welsh Tract, By Thomas Allen Glenn, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1970. p. 333, 334.
Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, By William Wade Hinshaw, Volume II, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore , 1969. p. 601.1761, 9, 17. Benjamin, s Allexander, Phila., Pa., m Jane Roberts, dt of Awbrey, Phila., Pa., at Phila. Mtg.
Merion in the Welsh Tract, By Thomas Allen Glenn, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1970. p. 333, 334.CressonD. Cresson Hoehn16341 DublinCircle Apt. 205Fort Myers, FL 33908-3234
- Sources:Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. 2, pg. 397, Phila MM Records. Benjamin R. Morgan disowned at Phila MM in 1772 for marriage contrary to discipline after remarrying after the death of his wife Jane Roberts when she gave birth to Benjamin R. Morgan Jr.. their 4th child.
2 Jane Roberts in the family of Owen and Ann is that the minutes the 1703 Jane died the same year, so I assumed that had another girl and named her Jane who would have been born at a later date which is not recorded. They did that with another boy baby as well. This happened with her brother Owen-there was another Owen before him. There are descendants claiming Sarah and Lydia were also from Owen by another wife, which I assume was an earlier one, and Sarah and Lydia were old enough to have moved to another Meeting. I do not know.
There were 2 Jane Roberts:
1) b AFTER 1703 in Merion-Jane Roberts (d/o Owen Roberts and Ann Bevan) who married John Nichols/Nicholas and had no children and died fall of 1765.
Sources:
- Title: Burial Record of Merion Meeting Graveyard (1707-1724), Montgomery County , PA
Text: Children of Owen Roberts and Ann Bevan, his wife were: Hugh (b. 5 Mo. 30,
1699); John (b. 8 Mo. 12, 1701; m. Mary Jones); Jane (b. 4 Mo. 2, 1703; d. 4
Mo. 2, 1703); Awbrey ( b. 4 Mo. 24, 1705); Owen (b. 7 Mo. 18, 1707; d. inf.);
Owen (b. 8 Mo. 23, 1711.)
Will proven December. 13 Dec 1773
Philadelphia County , Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
Name: Jane Roberts Nicholas
Residence: Philadelphia
Description: Decedent
Date: 13 Dec 1765
Prove Date: 13 Dec 1773
Title: Widow
Book Page: P:497
Remarks: Jane Nicholas. City of Phila . Widow. 13 Dec 1765. 13 Dec 1773. Brother: Owen Roberts. Nieces and nephews: Elizabeth, Ruth and Susannah Roberts, Benjamin Morgan, Jr., James and Bradford Roberts, Awbry and Samuel Roberts, Mary and Anne Roberts. Execs.: Elizabeth and Ruth Roberts. P:497.
Susan,
Shown below are sources for the marriage of Jane Roberts and John Nichols/Nicholas.
Jane Roberts, daughter of Owen Roberts and his wife, Ann/Anne Bevan was born on April 2, 1703. She married John Nichols (or according to the Quaker women's minutes, John Nicholas) on December 28, 1723 at the Philadelphia Monthly Meeting
Merion in the Welsh Tract, By Thomas Allen Glenn, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1970.
p. 333, 334.
Merion in the Welsh Tract, By Thomas Allen Glenn, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1970. p. 176. 177.
Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, By William Wade Hinshaw, Volume II, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1969. Roberts, p. 636, Philadelphia Monthly Meeting (1723,12,28. Jane rmt (reported married to) John Nichols.
1723,12,28. (28 Dec 1723)
Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, By William Wade Hinshaw, Volume II, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1969. Nichols, p. 607, Philadelphia Monthly Meeting (1723,12,28. John rmt (reported to marry) Jane Roberts (John Nicholas in women,s minutes).
1723,12,28. (28 Dec 1723)
D. Cresson Hoehn
16341 Dublin Circle Apt 205
Fort Myers, FL 33908-3234
Ancestry:
Names Brother: Owen Roberts.
Nieces and nephews: Elizabeth, Ruth and Susannah Roberts, Benjamin Morgan, Jr., James and Bradford Roberts, Awbry and Samuel Roberts, Mary and Anne Roberts.
Execs: Elizabeth and Ruth Roberts.
Wit: Salome Chancellor, Peter Miller, Benjamin Morgan.
Jane Nicholas says the beneficiaries are her neices and nephews, not her sisters in laws or brothers in laws (like Benjamin Morgan Sr).
I used to have a town meeting minutes in Philadelphia for the application to prolong the permit for the Gloucester Co settlers who were living in caves along the bank in Gloucester Co to continue to live there until their cabins/houses were built. late 1600s.
From a fellow Quaker:
As for the two Jane Roberts, they didn’t help us any by dying the same year, did they? I’m amused by your comment that Benjamin Morgan Jr. married his 2nd wife very soon after he lost his first wife, and why…because he needed a mother for his infant son. That happened in my own family. My mother died when I was 14 months old and my only brother was 4 days old. Dad remarried within the year, and that was not a pleasant marriage. We had a stepmother who acted more like a prison matron, and she treated my brother and me like we were the juvenile delinquent prisoners. Ah, but that was long ago – she and my Dad are gone, and brother died in 2004 after a somewhat confused life and a career in the Army Air Force Pararescue service. Daredevels who rescued, first, astronauts when they landed in capsules in the ocean, and later, when that wasn’t needed, they rescued anyone who needed to be rescued in any country that needed them. Life does go on!
My illustrious ancestor, Dr. Bernardus VanLeer, came to America in 1696 with his parents when he was eleven years old. He helped establish the VanLeer properties in Philadelphia and Delaware County and then returned to Europe to study medicine. He returned after 7 years, stayed single until 1734 when he married Mary Branson of Philadelphia and they had 6 sons. Mary died in 1748 (probably worn out!) Living in the VanLeer household was Dr. Bernardus’ father, John George vonLöehr (immigrant from Germany via London ) and his second wife, Rebecca Fauls VanLeer. Rebecca brought with her to the marriage, her daughter Christiana, age 11 at the time of her mother’s marriage to John George. John Goerge died in 1748, too, and Rebecca married again and left the VanLeer home. That left Christiana, age about 23, alone in the house with Dr. Bernardus and his 6 sons. Somebody had to take care of those kids! Dr. B. married Christiana in 1750 and she raised his kids and their kids (8 or more). She was 23 when they married; he was 64. He lived to be 104, and she outlived him by another 15 years and died at age 88. Hardy bunch!
I think we can write off Aquilla Roberts and his kin. They are not part of this OWEN ROBERTS family.
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
Name: Jane Nicholas
Description: Witness
Date: 14 Oct 1753
Prove Date: 1 Nov 1753
Book Page: K:117
Remarks: Evans, Elizabeth . City of Philadelphia . Widow. 10 mo. 14, 1753. Nov. 1, 1753. Grandson: David. Overseers: Edward Jones, Charles Jones, Owen Jones, Joseph Redman. Exec: Children Evan, Sidney and Sarah.
per Source: [you have him off a year]
Burial Record of Merion Meeting Graveyard (1707-1724), Montgomery County,
PA, Children of Owen Roberts and Ann Bevan, his wife were: Hugh (b. 5 Mo.
30,
1699); John (b. 8 Mo. 12, 1701; m. Mary Jones); Jane (b. 4 Mo. 2, 1703;
d. 4
Mo. 2, 1703); Awbrey ( b. 4 Mo. 24, 1705); Owen (b. 7 Mo. 18, 1707; d.
inf.);
Owen (b. 8 Mo. 23, 1711.).
Von: Marjorie B. Winter <>
An: susan aldridge
Gesendet: Freitag, den 26. Januar 2007, 06:43:19 Uhr
Betreff: RE: JANE NICHOLAS AND ROBERTS
Susan: First: I am fascinated. Why am I getting replies from you which include the German language? Where are you ? Are you German, writing in English ? If so, you are doing it very well!
Some of the information you have provided is different from that which I have acquired. Here’s what I have from the Merion Meeting Burial Records, from accounts of the Bevan family in various history books, and from our own family sources.
OWEN ROBERTS was b. Oct 1, 1677 in Kiltgarth, Merionethshire, Wales , son of Hugh Robert and his wife Jane Owen. He married ANN BEVAN Jan. 23, 1696 at Merion Quaker Meeting. OWEN was 19 years old and ANN BEVAN was 20 years old. HUGH and his wife JANE OWEN ROBERT arrived in America on the ship Lyon Aug 12, 1682. Their son, OWEN, a child of only 5, was probably with them.
ANN BEVAN, was b. 1676 at Treverigg, the Bevan estate, in Llantrissant, Glamorganshire, Wales . ANN was the daughter of JOHN BEVAN and his wife BARBARA AUBREY. Both John and Barbara were Quaker Preachers. ANN was 7 years old when she came to America with her parents in 1683. Her parents were leaders of the Quaker venture to settle Merion in the Welsh Tract under William Penn.
OWEN and ANN BEVAN ROBERTS had the following children:
HUGH ROBERTS b. May 30, 1699
JOHN ROBERTS b. Aug 12, 1701 – Married MARY JONES
JANE ROBERTS b. Apr 2, 1703 – I believe this is the lady who m. NICHOLAS and whose will is being quoted, including naming her nieces and nephews, who would be the children of her brothers, John, Awbrey and Owen, and (possibly) those who were descendents of her husband ……. Nicholas. The Morgans ? You state that Awbry and Samuel Roberts are children of Jane’s brother Aubrey Roberts (and their sister Jane had married Benjamin Morgan.) This would not be Jane Roberts Nicholas (widow and childless,) sister of JOHN, AWBREY, AND OWEN ROBERTS. Jane Roberts Morgan was probably the second, and later, Jane. See below concerning MORGAN.
AWBREY ROBERTS b. Apr 24, 1705
OWEN ROBERTS b. Jul 18, 1708 – died in infancy
OWEN ROBERTS b. Aug 23, 1711 There were no other children of the marriage of OWEN and ANN BEVAN ROBERTS.
You quote these same children from the Merion Burial Records, yet you have included three other individuals as the children of OWEN and ANN BEVAN ROBERTS. You have included LYDIA ROBERTS, SARAH ROBERTS, and JANE ROBERTS b. 1704-1715 and married to …… NICHOLAS. OWEN and ANN BEVAN ROBERTS had only one daughter named Jane, not two. So far as I know, LYDIA and SARAH are not daughters of OWEN and ANN BEVAN ROBERTS. Also, I have never seen any source which mentioned that this OWEN ROBERTS had married twice.
Concerning the MORGANS: If BENJAMIN MORGAN (Sr.), son of ALEXANDER and HANNAH COOPER MORGAN, married Jane Roberts, I think it would be the later Jane, not Jane Roberts Nicholas who died in 1765. You state: JANE ROBERTS died 12 Feb 1765 Philadelphia and by 1772 he had remarried out of Meeting. Who married out of meeting? By “he” do you mean Benjamin Morgan (Sr.)? There is a BENJAMIN MORGAN, JR. whose mother would be _________? Why do you assume that BENJAMIN MORGAN Sr. , not Jr. was witness to the will of Jane Roberts Nicholas? If Benjamin Sr. was her husband, would he have been a suitable witness to her will? If Benjamin Jr. was her stepson, would he have been a suitable witness to her will? You state that Benjamin Jr. was her nephew, not her stepson.
You state that Benjamin Morgan was married to Jane Roberts, dau of the elder Jane Roberts’ brother Aubrey Roberts. That is entirely possible, although I have no source for that, but that is not the Jane Roberts who died in 1765 in Philadelphia and whose will is being quoted. The elder Jane would have named Jane Morgan, her niece, in her will, unless, of course, the niece, Jane, was deceased by 1765, leaving her husband Benjamin Morgan, Jr. her widower and, by law, a nephew of the elder Jane. This gets confusing, doesn’t it?
Referring back to the will of Jane Roberts Nicholas, I would agree with you that the nieces and nephews are named in sets – belonging to each of Jane’s brothers JOHN, OWEN, and AUBREY ROBERTS. However, your list includes “Mary and Anne Roberts (children of AQUILLA ROBERTS?”) I have checked at World Connect of Rootsweb and found Aquilla Roberts. One submitter lists him as a child of John Roberts and Mary ________ and another submitter lists him as a child of John Roberts and Mary Kilcup. These are not members of the family we are discussing. Our John Roberts, son of Owen and Ann Bevan Roberts, was married to Mary Jones. None of the Bevan sources I have seen name such a person. Can you tell me your source for that information?
Is it not possible that Mary is Mary Jones Roberts and Anne is Anne Bevan Roberts, both of whom were sisters-in-law of Jane Roberts Nicholas ?
To be sure, this will take some time to think through. I have not finished my study of the Merion Burial Records, so the fact that I have no Lydia Roberts or Sarah Roberts in that database could mean simply that I haven’t come across those names as yet. However, I do believe the Owen and Ann Bevan Roberts family information I have quoted is correct, and we just have to figure out who the other individuals really are. Please keep in touch.
Marj
From: susan aldridge [mailto:susanaldridge2000@yahoo.de]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:53 PM
To: marjw@suddenlink.net
Subject: AW: JANE NICHOLAS AND ROBERTS
Ho Marjorie
I lived right near Merion and used to walk to the park to walk my dogs in the 1969-1973 times (Be-ins in the Fairmount Park ) and to see a friend who lived in Merion. I lived at the train station at City Line Avenue . My mother spent part of her childhood in bala cynwyd and my grandparents lived on Rock Glenn dr. My cousins live near there now. I have been trying to figure out my Morgans who were Philadelphia-Gloucester Co -early Quaker settlers and trying to figure out about the Benjamin Morgan which is how I stumbled on the information. I think I found out which Roberts they they are--I will put it at the bottom and you can tell me if I am right. Some of their children are missing I think. I went to Merion Meeting one time, but I preferred Chestnut Hill Meeting the best and then Germantown Meeting because they were so friendly. The most unfriendly I went to was Race St (formerly Mulberry)--Arch was better. On the main line I ran into a few mink coats at meeting and got turned off as a young Friend. I attended Wilmington Del meeting and then Augusta Monthly Meeting in GA as a child. later I went to Charleston Meeting with Linda Miller and Winafred and son, and Carol Lee and Ben Cameron.
As for Jane Roberts, she had no children and she died in 1765, so then Benjamin Senior witnessed her will it was because he had been had to her brother Awbrey´s daughter Jane -a neice of hers (Benjamin jr. was jane Nicholas nephew). He married another woman in 1772 who was not Quaker-- from the data --but do not know who she was because they were too snooty to mention her..
Susan Aldridge
I think her Nicholas husband and jane Roberts born sometime after 1704 had no heirs, no children- at least none alive and none who had children. There are no sons or daughters in her will--only nephews and nieces. She lists the children in family groupings I believe. So these are the children from each of her brothers and I tried to identify them, but it was hard. Even though they are no relation.
NICHOLAS, JANE. City of Phila . Widow.
December 13, 1765. December 13, 1773.
Brother: Owen Roberts.
Nieces and nephews:
Elizabeth, Ruth and Susannah Roberts,
Benjamin Morgan, Jr. (mentions no other Morgan children),
James and Bradford Roberts,
Awbry and Samuel Roberts, (children of brother Aubrey Roberts)-(and their sister Jane had married Benjamin Morgan)
Mary and Anne Roberts. ( Aquilla Roberts? Mary Jones Roberts and Anne is Anne Bevan Roberts, both of whom were sisters-in-law of Jane Roberts Nicholas)
Execs.: Elizabeth and Ruth Roberts.
Witnesses: Salome Chancellor, Peter Miller, Benjamin Morgan (Benjamin Jrs father)
This was perhaps her father. Of course she was a later born Jane, after the first Jane died.
· Owen Roberts Birth: in Kiltagarth, Merionethshire, Wales , son of Hugh Robert ,and his wife Jane Owen was born on October 1, 1677 in Kiltalgarth Township , Llanvawr Parish, Merionethshire, Wales .Will: 1706 Philadelphia , Pennsylvania , Proved OCT 1723 Residence: Removed From Merion to Phila
Marriage 1 Ann Bevan
- Married: 23 JAN 1696/ in Merion Quaker Meeting, Pennsylvania
Children
- Hugh Roberts b: 30 MAY 1699
- Lydia ROBERTS by another wife of Owen b: 1694 in Gwynedd Township , Philadelphia
- John Roberts b: 12 AUG 1701 married Mary Jones
- Jane Roberts b: 2 APR 1703
- Awbrey Roberts b: 24 APR 1705 known children I think-are Jane (married Benjamin Morgan) and Elizabeth (married George Smith 13 OCT 1778 Philadelphia ), Awbrey jr and Samuel
- Owen Roberts b: 18 JUL 1708 died in infancy
Owen Roberts b: 23 AUG 1711
- Sarah Roberts died Aug 1737 in Radnor, Chester Co., Pa married John Cadwallader
- Jane Roberts b between 1704 and 1715 married unknown NICHOLAS
· Benjamin MORGAN
Father: Alexander MORGAN
Mother: Hannah COOPER
Sources:
- Title: First Immigrant Settlers of Newton Township, Old Gloucester Co, West Jersey by john colement of haddonfield NJ
Page: 212
Marriage 1 Jane ROBERTS died 12 FEB 1765 Philadelphia and by 1772 he had remarried out of the Meeting.
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Betreff: JANE NICHOLAS AND ROBERTS
Susan: Thank you for the information you posted. The people you mentioned are not in our direct line, but my husband and I find all information about the Merion Quakers of interest. We were born and raised in what was Merion in the Welsh Tract in Pennsylvania , as were many previous generations of our families, and we grew up with people who were descendants of those Quakers. The names are all very familiar to us.
One question about the information you posted concerning BENJAMIN MORGAN, SR. The reference states that he was disowned at Phila MM in 1772 for marriage contrary to discipline. I suppose there were numerous offences which were categorized “outside of discipline” but it usually meant marriage to someone other than a Quaker, i.e., marriage by an official of another religion. I can’t see how his marriage to Jane Roberts would qualify in that regard…Jane, daughter of Owen Roberts and Ann Bevan, was certainly a born Quaker. Perhaps Jane left the Quaker religion, who knows? Or, perhaps Benjamin married someone else in 1772, and later married Jane. At any rate, Jane Roberts Nicholas had a nephew Benjamin Morgan. Perhaps through her husband …..Nicholas. These things are like jigsaw puzzles, and fascinate me.
Marj Winter in New Bern , NC Please note email address change
Jane Roberts, daughter of Owen Roberts and his wife, Ann/Anne Bevan was born on April 2, 1703. She married John Nichols (or according to the Quaker women's minutes, John Nicholas) on December 28, 1723 at the Philadelphia Monthly Meeting
p. 333, 334.
Name: Jane Nicholas
Description: Witness
Date: 14 Oct 1753
Prove Date: 1 Nov 1753
BookPage: K:117
Remarks: Evans, Elizabeth. City of Philadelphia. Widow. 10 mo. 14, 1753. Nov. 1, 1753. Grandson: David. Overseers: Edward Jones, Charles Jones, Owen Jones, Joseph Redman. Exec: Children Evan, Sidney and Sarah.
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
Name: Jane Roberts Nicholas
Residence: Philadelphia
Description: Decedent
Date: 13 Dec 1765
Prove Date: 13 Dec 1773
Title: Widow
BookPage: P:497
_____________________________________
Another suspect Benjamin in Gloucester Co NJ. Woolwich is where Swedesborough is.
Samuel Morgan Will: 21 JAN 1760 Pilesgrove Twp, Salem, New Jersey Patron ordinance submission sheets, 1969-1991
Children
1. WILLIAM MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender:
2. JOSEPH MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
3. SAMUEL MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
William Morgan Will: 10 JUN 1775 Woolwich Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey children
1. BENJAMIN MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
2. SARAH MORGAN -
3. ELIZABETH MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
4. JOSHUA MORGAN -
5. JACOB MORGAN -
6. WILLIAM MORGAN - International Genealogical Index
2 comments:
You have done a fabulous job researching this family!
Do you know anything about Benjamin Morgan, Esq, "of Somerset Co", who married Anne Hicks "of Elizabethtown" in 1765 at St. John's Church, "Essex now Union Co., New Jersey.
She is the daughter of Edward Hicks (d.1762), merchant of Long Island and Philadelphia and his wife Violetta Ricketts.(d. young, 1747) Siblings Catherine, mother of Edward Hicks the artist, Mary, wife of Bishop Samuel Seabury, Wiliam who married Francina Jekyll, Charles, and my ancestor, Edward Hicks, a Lt. Col. in the British Army. [William's will of 1771, Bucks Co. PA mentions his sister Ann Morgan.
That's all I know. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
You have done a fabulous job researching this family!
Do you know anything about Benjamin Morgan, Esq, "of Somerset Co", who married Anne Hicks "of Elizabethtown" in 1765 at St. John's Church, "Essex now Union Co., New Jersey.
She is the daughter of Edward Hicks (d.1762), merchant of Long Island and Philadelphia and his wife Violetta Ricketts.(d. young, 1747) Siblings Catherine, mother of Edward Hicks the artist, Mary, wife of Bishop Samuel Seabury, Wiliam who married Francina Jekyll, Charles, and my ancestor, Edward Hicks, a Lt. Col. in the British Army. [William's will of 1771, Bucks Co. PA mentions his sister Ann Morgan.}
That's all I know. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
January 8, 2013 7:58 PM
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